Gates of Dreaming
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kokopelleBecause I'm interested in expanded realities...
The Seven Gates of Dreaming
Summarized from "The Art of Dreaming'' by Carlos Castaneda.
First Gate:
You reach the first gate when you become aware you are falling asleep or have a gigantically real dream. You cross the first gate when you are able to sustain the sight of any item in your dream.
In order to offset the evanescent quality of dreams, sorcerers have devised the use of the starting point item. Every time you isolate it and look at it, you get a surge of energy. The most convenient thing to use is your hands (which follows naturally from looking for your hands in your dreams).
Second Gate:
You cross the second gate when you are able to change from dream to dream. For example, you wake up from a dream in another dream or use an item of your dream to trigger another dream.
Third Gate:
You reach the third gate when you dream yourself asleep. You cross the third gate by moving your energy body after having done so. At the third gate you begin to merge your dreaming reality with the reality of the daily world.
Fourth Gate:
At the fourth gate, the energy body travels to specific, concrete places either in this world, out of this world, or places that exist only in the intent of others.
Go to sleep in a certain position, then in dreaming, dream that you lie down in the same position and fall asleep again. This is called the twin positions and it solidifies your dreaming attention. The second dream is intending in the second attention: the only way to cross the fourth gate of dreaming.
The Seven Gates of Dreaming
Summarized from "The Art of Dreaming'' by Carlos Castaneda.
First Gate:
You reach the first gate when you become aware you are falling asleep or have a gigantically real dream. You cross the first gate when you are able to sustain the sight of any item in your dream.
In order to offset the evanescent quality of dreams, sorcerers have devised the use of the starting point item. Every time you isolate it and look at it, you get a surge of energy. The most convenient thing to use is your hands (which follows naturally from looking for your hands in your dreams).
Second Gate:
You cross the second gate when you are able to change from dream to dream. For example, you wake up from a dream in another dream or use an item of your dream to trigger another dream.
Third Gate:
You reach the third gate when you dream yourself asleep. You cross the third gate by moving your energy body after having done so. At the third gate you begin to merge your dreaming reality with the reality of the daily world.
Fourth Gate:
At the fourth gate, the energy body travels to specific, concrete places either in this world, out of this world, or places that exist only in the intent of others.
Go to sleep in a certain position, then in dreaming, dream that you lie down in the same position and fall asleep again. This is called the twin positions and it solidifies your dreaming attention. The second dream is intending in the second attention: the only way to cross the fourth gate of dreaming.
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Date: 2007-05-31 01:48 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2007-05-31 02:06 pm (UTC)I had to look this up because you posted SEVEN gates of dreaming and only listed 4 states.
Apologies from the start 'cause I can't read Castaneda (too male for me?) so I'm probably asking about stuff everybody else knows.
Wondering if you can tell me anything about these dream gates:
- freely and unconsciously dream into and through other people's dream states. The only place I've seen anything helpful is in fiction in the Wheel of Time series -- and that's not at all how it goes.
- dream into the group unconscious, meeting there with specific others who work out unmanageable "kinks"
- get pulled into OTHER people's recurring nightmares as a change agent. This happens even with people who are not particularly gifted and THEY remember the dream even though I don't.
- dream wide awake and asleep with equal efficacy.
Inquiring minds want to know.
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Date: 2007-05-31 02:21 pm (UTC)http://www.amazon.com/Dream-Power-Dreams-Make-Well/dp/1585010952/ref=pd_bbs_sr_3/002-4798777-9853626?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1180621124&sr=1-3
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Date: 2007-06-01 12:00 pm (UTC)*freely and unconsciously dream into and through other people's dream states.*
My mate and I experience this. I've come into her dreams, sometimes forcibly. I don't remember this in my own waking state, but then again, there is much I don't remember when I am sleeping. I seem to have a second life there.
*dream into the group unconscious, meeting there with specific others who work out unmanageable "kinks"*
I believe that a group can meet in the dreamstate, especially when there is a capable facilitator involved.
*get pulled into OTHER people's recurring nightmares as a change agent. This happens even with people who are not particularly gifted and THEY remember the dream even though I don't.*
I believe my mate and I have experienced this before.
*dream wide awake and asleep with equal efficacy.*
I have my own theories about intuitive states being akin to "dream" states. People can also reenter dreams from an awake state. I believe that the two states - awake and asleep - are very similar. The common base is the state of the mind and some difficult to define "other sight" intuitive component. It is my opinion that the dream state is more open to most people than the waking state.